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Pablo Naboso's avatar

I am in high doubt whether anyone in Europe understands what means "the state of urgency". And I am afraid the spending will be just that: uncoordinated spending (effectively wasting money), rather than factual preparing for war. Like I said last December, Europe needs to fundamentally change to understand what war means, and start believing that we are, not in the future but in present, at war. I am afraid many years will still pass and Ukraine will perish before this understanding comes. https://nomadicmind.substack.com/p/the-war-we-pretend-not-to-see?r=31fxoh

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Thomas Leckwold's avatar

I agree 100% it will be uncoordinated spending that will not be money efficiently spent and how Europe seems to lack the understanding of modern warfare.

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Albert Cory's avatar

"800 Euro" : was there a "billion" in there?

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Thomas Leckwold's avatar

Sorry. Yes, 800 billion. Thank you! I will fix.

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Mohammed Elsoukkary's avatar

interesting anaylsis as usual, Thomas

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Thomas Leckwold's avatar

Good morning. That is true that he may have feared more repercussions and this not being an issue he wanted to fight, or the EU gave him a concession on other issues they have been pushing against Hungary as they have done in the past.

The other factor is that no country is beholden to this process since the grants are voluntary and have to be paid back. Member states that forego are not accountable for the debt.

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Thomas Leckwold's avatar

Thank you Mohammed. I was a little surprised that Hungary consented immediately. I thought they would resist the proposal to get a concession from the EU. So I did not get it completely right.

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Mohammed Elsoukkary's avatar

well the rearmament and defense issue is not entirely unfavorable for him in the long run, and it would have been difficult for him to argue against it given the circumstances, but he did support the Ukraine portion of the communique, which is in line with his stance, and for which I suspect he may have had more concerns of political repercussion.

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Libertarian's avatar

EU cucks talk tough today and three years from now will have sent zero combat troops (because you don’t have any) and less than 30 billion Euros to Ukraine. Fixed it for you. You people have had US protection for 80 years, didn’t appreciate it or say thank-you, and we’re done. We’re leaving NATO and the EU and we’re aligning with Russia. The times they are (have) a changing. Sing it with me! We’ll get all the natural resources we need from Russia and what was once the Ukraine. Realpolitik bitches.

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